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Post by manoopuesta on Nov 25, 2022 19:27:23 GMT
I'd love to hear more thoughts on this question, I've been thinking about it myself as both a fan and a cartoonist. Honestly I've enjoyed this forum more than I have any social media in years...
Sorry, I worded the post very vaguely. I meant alternatives to share content (i.e. comics) mainly. As comic reader I also agree that this forum is hands down the best option for this.
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Post by manoopuesta on Nov 25, 2022 20:10:53 GMT
As both a consumer and a creator I have no problem with the algorithms on the current platforms. As a consumer they serve me what I like and help me find new things and allow me an easy option to mute and block stuff I don't want to see. As an artist, I don't expect them to serve me. That's not what they're there for. I'm not paying for the service. But if you do, then you can make them work in your favor. Love it or hate it, that's how it should work. I've never understood the sentiment that these platforms are here to serve us. Seems naive. But I also get not wanting to exist in that kind of environment. I feel like a lot of people are going to expect the ease of a curated experience that comes with an algorithm and they're not going to like what they find and it's going to lead to stagnation. I hope also I won't come off as confrontational here, but I just wanted to give my point of view about this. Also I will get a bit political, so BubblesZine let me know if this is ok, if not I won't comment further on such topics. So you say that people will find content stagnation without the algorithm, but I feel that it won't stagnate, it just will fluid in a more democratic way. Having algorithms in the way they are used now is what is actually stagnating the content because it keeps the same hierarchies as usual, but I am guessing you and I don't notice it as much because of the type of content we follow.
Don't take me wrong, I don't have anything against using algorithms. I have a background in computer sciences and I've learnt the theory behind many of such algorithms. The mathematics involved is beautiful, so it gets me very depressed to see the use that businesses have for them (which is monetization).
Explaining this in a simple (so not completely accurate) way: Algorithms are first tweaked/trained on data so that they maximize a chosen metric and in turn the algorithm will give the desired result. Businesses have decided that the metric to use mainly is engagement (i.e. addiction) to maximize their revenue. Apart from addiction to those platforms, the content curation from those algorithms have somehow resulted in political polarization in such platforms (controversy creates more interest in humans, it seems --> hence more engagement). Platforms deny that this kind of polarization is something they were aiming for, but if that is the case, well they are using a metric (engagement) that is dehumanizing. Also people in general have been led to believe that there is no other possibility for these algorithms. But there is: why not training the algorithms using other types of metrics? Completely benign metrics probably won't do for companies, but what about milder ones? What about a middle point? I don't understand why they need to be so greedy and have the whole cake for them.
And I know that such companies are private, hence they are supposed to be in their right to do what they what. But there was a time decades ago, that even private companies tried to also bring some humanizing/social aspects to the table, even if just to save face. At this point they don't care anymore. Just because you are private, doesn't mean you should not take into account the welfare of your clients sometimes. Also, we are led to believe tech companies such as Facebook are free but we are paying in data, that is extremely valuable for them, so don't undervalue yourself, like you don't have a saying in their decisions: without our data they wouldn't have anything...
Sorry for the rant, and also sorry that I went into full nerd domain, haha.
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Post by arecomicsevengood on Nov 25, 2022 20:29:58 GMT
Do not want to derail this conversation, just want to say that Bhanu Pratap started serializing a comic called "Afternoon Pockets" on Substack, the first part of chapter one was just sent out today.
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Post by arecomicsevengood on Dec 23, 2022 17:11:20 GMT
Posting stuff people mentioned in the "For Your Consideration" thread here so this can serve as a resource: Austin mentioned Allee Errico's diary comics found on instagram.com/froggie.world and I thought they were really good, very well-drawn Andrew mentioned Nick Edwards' Kingly, which you can find at nickedwards.fun/KINGLY and I liked that a lot too. His instagram handle is @nickedwoods
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Post by lonyowdely on Jan 1, 2023 18:15:23 GMT
Benjamin Marra is counting down to something on his instagram. I hope (and assume) it means that What We Mean By Yesterday is returning from hiatus.
I just reread it all. Hoping for it to come out in print soon to give a different flavor to the next reread and so I can more easily push it on friends. The long scroll to strip number 1 is a little painful.
I'm curious how Bruce and Ninkugel's stories will be interwoven going forward. Will there be a third, fourth format/setting? And is there a greater connection between the two stories or is WWMBY just an anthology of all comics that Benjamin serializes on Instagram?
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Post by arecomicsevengood on Jan 15, 2023 20:42:58 GMT
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Post by manoopuesta on May 2, 2023 10:32:36 GMT
https://www.instagram.com/p/CrtN3niM17s Edit: Just realized the embedding of that link may not show on all devices. so that's a post from Fantagraphics stating: "AL COLUMBIA IS BACK! After a several-year hiatus from comics making, alfredcolumbia is working on a new strip (publishing destination TBA). Fantagraphics is proud to preview it at the pace of one panel a day over the next 12 days. Enjoy." --Gary Groth"
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Post by manoopuesta on May 2, 2023 22:51:07 GMT
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Post by manoopuesta on May 3, 2023 7:42:02 GMT
I am not sure if this should go here or somewhere else, oh well... : There's a new collection of stories posted in Margot Ferrick's website margot.maison/os2020-2022/
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