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Post by k0rnbr34d on Sept 16, 2021 7:04:04 GMT
The link isn't working for me for some reason. What are they?
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Post by BubblesZine on Sept 16, 2021 11:50:49 GMT
The link isn't working for me for some reason. What are they? "GBC® VeloBind Reclosable Spines, 200 Sheet Capacity, Black, 25/Pack"
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Post by dwlynch on Sept 23, 2021 1:54:06 GMT
The link isn't working for me for some reason. What are they?
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Post by blaisemoritz on Sept 23, 2021 23:11:45 GMT
I've enjoyed getting actual newsprint for interior pages. One thing I want to try but haven't done yet (maybe someone else has) is try ordering through industrial supply companies - I'm thinking of ULine in particular. They sell all kinds of cool boxes and bags, and they sell newsprint in some interesting sizes. They're selling it as packing, lining material so I'm not sure how it would print but I intend to try it some time. I've also got this kid's pad of "paint paper" from a dollar store which I'm wanting to try. It feels like old fashioned comic book cover stock. My biggest concern is ink may not bind to it.
Agree 100% on the tools mentioned already. That was the big thing for me: when I finally realized I need my own saddle-stitch stapler and paper cutter. (Had my folding bone already.) I've got a swingline stapler and a swingline "ClassicCut" both of which I put in some research on and have been very happy with. I went for a 15" bed on the cutter so that there would be the option of cutting larger paper sizes. I definitely encourage cutting. Not only does it open up a world of thinking about what proportions you really like and then how that impacts your approach to pages, it also brings in the possibility of bleeds. You may never use them but that feeling that you could leave a margin or you could go right over the edge is cool, especially for covers.
If you're looking for some inspiration, I feel like you can never go wrong with John Broadley's books. He does this really cool hybrid approach where he essentially makes a straight ahead saddle stitched zine, but then adds on a simple version of hardcover binding with some covered boards attached with endpapers. It's not as intense as getting into actual sewn signature and all the chopping and blocking of "full" bookbinding but it's more than enough to give the books a very beautiful feel.
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Post by pietrykowski on Sept 24, 2021 3:05:48 GMT
I've enjoyed getting actual newsprint for interior pages. One thing I want to try but haven't done yet (maybe someone else has) is try ordering through industrial supply companies - I'm thinking of ULine in particular. They sell all kinds of cool boxes and bags, and they sell newsprint in some interesting sizes. They're selling it as packing, lining material so I'm not sure how it would print but I intend to try it some time. I've also got this kid's pad of "paint paper" from a dollar store which I'm wanting to try. It feels like old fashioned comic book cover stock. My biggest concern is ink may not bind to it. Agree 100% on the tools mentioned already. That was the big thing for me: when I finally realized I need my own saddle-stitch stapler and paper cutter. (Had my folding bone already.) I've got a swingline stapler and a swingline "ClassicCut" both of which I put in some research on and have been very happy with. I went for a 15" bed on the cutter so that there would be the option of cutting larger paper sizes. I definitely encourage cutting. Not only does it open up a world of thinking about what proportions you really like and then how that impacts your approach to pages, it also brings in the possibility of bleeds. You may never use them but that feeling that you could leave a margin or you could go right over the edge is cool, especially for covers. If you're looking for some inspiration, I feel like you can never go wrong with John Broadley's books. He does this really cool hybrid approach where he essentially makes a straight ahead saddle stitched zine, but then adds on a simple version of hardcover binding with some covered boards attached with endpapers. It's not as intense as getting into actual sewn signature and all the chopping and blocking of "full" bookbinding but it's more than enough to give the books a very beautiful feel. I am a big fan of newsprint too and currently planning a newsprint project. If you are looking for paper options I might recommend frenchpaper.com. I haven't used their newsprint yet but have gotten other papers for zines and screenprints. Their prices are pretty low and they are a good family owned mill to work with. Also thanks for the Broadley rec!
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Post by k0rnbr34d on Sept 24, 2021 5:11:35 GMT
Thanks for the past couple posts. Exactly the info I'm looking for. What is the process for printing on newsprint? Do you have to bring it to a special printer or have the supplier print it for you?
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Post by k0rnbr34d on Sept 24, 2021 5:12:57 GMT
The link isn't working for me for some reason. What are they? These look really interesting. I've seen some people do spiral bounds, which is interesting, but I feel like this could work better because you could make a cover for the exposed pages at the spine and pin it on with these when binding.
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Post by pietrykowski on Sept 24, 2021 16:29:03 GMT
Thanks for the past couple posts. Exactly the info I'm looking for. What is the process for printing on newsprint? Do you have to bring it to a special printer or have the supplier print it for you? If you are doing a large scale newsprint project like a boardsheet you are probably going to have to find a printer. Traditionally offset presses were used for newsprint but a lot of the newprints today are printed digitally. You can get newsprint as small as 8.5" x 11" to make zines. Just be mindful of paperweight. Very light newsprint might run the risk of jamming some printers. It might be best to get a sample pack of paper weights and do a test.
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Post by carmroses on Sept 28, 2021 2:20:32 GMT
Thanks for the past couple posts. Exactly the info I'm looking for. What is the process for printing on newsprint? Do you have to bring it to a special printer or have the supplier print it for you? some newsprint will work on laser printers. depending on the paper, you can print newsprint using manual feed and a thin paper setting. look up the specs of the printer you're using to see which paper weight is the minimum it accepts. for my printer, there's a way to print envelopes using manual feed where you open up the back of the printer, and the paper comes straight out there. i use that setting to print all kinds of weird sizes and weights. this is the way to do it...if you use the manual feed where the paper is coming out the top like regular, that's how stuff gets jammed, even if your printer supposedly accepts the paper weight you're printing on. printing out the back bypasses the mechanisms where stuff gets jammed.
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Post by carmroses on Sept 28, 2021 2:25:13 GMT
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Post by carmroses on Sept 28, 2021 2:27:43 GMT
I've enjoyed getting actual newsprint for interior pages. One thing I want to try but haven't done yet (maybe someone else has) is try ordering through industrial supply companies - I'm thinking of ULine in particular. They sell all kinds of cool boxes and bags, and they sell newsprint in some interesting sizes. They're selling it as packing, lining material so I'm not sure how it would print but I intend to try it some time. I've also got this kid's pad of "paint paper" from a dollar store which I'm wanting to try. It feels like old fashioned comic book cover stock. My biggest concern is ink may not bind to it. Agree 100% on the tools mentioned already. That was the big thing for me: when I finally realized I need my own saddle-stitch stapler and paper cutter. (Had my folding bone already.) I've got a swingline stapler and a swingline "ClassicCut" both of which I put in some research on and have been very happy with. I went for a 15" bed on the cutter so that there would be the option of cutting larger paper sizes. I definitely encourage cutting. Not only does it open up a world of thinking about what proportions you really like and then how that impacts your approach to pages, it also brings in the possibility of bleeds. You may never use them but that feeling that you could leave a margin or you could go right over the edge is cool, especially for covers. If you're looking for some inspiration, I feel like you can never go wrong with John Broadley's books. He does this really cool hybrid approach where he essentially makes a straight ahead saddle stitched zine, but then adds on a simple version of hardcover binding with some covered boards attached with endpapers. It's not as intense as getting into actual sewn signature and all the chopping and blocking of "full" bookbinding but it's more than enough to give the books a very beautiful feel. BOYCOTT ULINE refuseuline.com/#resourcesi'm sure there are tons of alternatives out here, but this is the paper company local to me. i am kid in candy store and spoiled b/c i can walk to the real place (。•́‿•̀。). paperworks.com/
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Post by pietrykowski on Sept 28, 2021 4:07:53 GMT
Thanks for the talk. I can't wait to listen to while working. Also, when I first read "marc fisher" my brain went the author of C apitalist Realism, and not Public Collectors. lol
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Post by manoopuesta on Oct 19, 2021 0:06:46 GMT
This may be a silly question but: What kind of paper stock do you use for printing minicomics? I use standard printer paper (though with more weight than the usual one) but I would like a nicer feeling on the stuff I print in the future.
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Post by whitecomics on Oct 19, 2021 20:07:13 GMT
I've also had good luck with bestvaluecopy and have used them for year, though I think they've gotten three out of my past four orders wrong -- wrong trim size, wrong pagination, and in one case printing half of each spread upside down. They're always willing to fix it, so still a good option I suppose and the print quality is decent, but be forewarned! Just wanted to follow up on this (i.e. vent). For anything but the most straightforward request, stay away from bestvaluecopy. It's a little incredible at this point how many different ways they've messed up the instruction "cut this down to 5x7" -- when that's one of the trim sizes they claim to offer! I'd welcome suggestions for any other option for those of us without a good local printer. Or maybe I just need to figure out how to print at home.
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Post by blaisemoritz on Nov 13, 2021 1:36:03 GMT
I've enjoyed getting actual newsprint for interior pages. One thing I want to try but haven't done yet (maybe someone else has) is try ordering through industrial supply companies - I'm thinking of ULine in particular. They sell all kinds of cool boxes and bags, and they sell newsprint in some interesting sizes. They're selling it as packing, lining material so I'm not sure how it would print but I intend to try it some time. I've also got this kid's pad of "paint paper" from a dollar store which I'm wanting to try. It feels like old fashioned comic book cover stock. My biggest concern is ink may not bind to it. Agree 100% on the tools mentioned already. That was the big thing for me: when I finally realized I need my own saddle-stitch stapler and paper cutter. (Had my folding bone already.) I've got a swingline stapler and a swingline "ClassicCut" both of which I put in some research on and have been very happy with. I went for a 15" bed on the cutter so that there would be the option of cutting larger paper sizes. I definitely encourage cutting. Not only does it open up a world of thinking about what proportions you really like and then how that impacts your approach to pages, it also brings in the possibility of bleeds. You may never use them but that feeling that you could leave a margin or you could go right over the edge is cool, especially for covers. If you're looking for some inspiration, I feel like you can never go wrong with John Broadley's books. He does this really cool hybrid approach where he essentially makes a straight ahead saddle stitched zine, but then adds on a simple version of hardcover binding with some covered boards attached with endpapers. It's not as intense as getting into actual sewn signature and all the chopping and blocking of "full" bookbinding but it's more than enough to give the books a very beautiful feel. BOYCOTT ULINE refuseuline.com/#resourcesi'm sure there are tons of alternatives out here, but this is the paper company local to me. i am kid in candy store and spoiled b/c i can walk to the real place (。•́‿•̀。). paperworks.com/thanks for the refuseuline site. much appreciated. a place i knew from catalogs showing at work and it was good to get this insight as well as the reference to paperworks.
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