Buenaventura Press/Pigeon Press complete bibliography

[BubblesZine]

Dec 7, 2022 4:49:35 GMT dominocorp said:

looks like it may have been answered in this video! (once you hit on the story, stick with it, as conversation veers off topic for a second before full story is told...remember: stickers)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DE9Eu2vCXc

Ha, awesome, I'll put this on while I ship stuff later.

[BubblesZine]

I'm 90 minutes in, loved the Boy's Club story, but you two got some real wisdom in here. I'm with yall all the way.

[dominocorp]

thanks! Tim should speak in public more often, he has a perspective that's both straightforwardly helpful to artists/readers but not simplistic.

Given all the news stories done about Pepe, I think that's a story that's worth having some reporting on, Alvin essentially doing the approprpriation of Pepe before anyone else!

[mikesheawright]

oh man was gonna watch this anyway, now extra hyped to put it on tonight. i got to meet tim briefly at short run, super nice dude. i spent a lot of time with the Tonfa book this year, made a fat list of to-watches.

[whitecomics]

I'm resurrecting this thread because I finally listened to Tim's symposium talk. I really enjoyed it, I'd strongly recommend it to anyone.

In terms of the "sticker" anecdote specifically, Austin and Tim do a good job of taking a broad view, trying to pull wider lessons from those circumstances, but I have to say I find it pretty depressing that Buenaventura swiped comics intended for other publishers often enough that he had a *reputation* for doing so?? Bleh.

Anyways, again, the talk in general was very inspiring and raised a number of issue that I'd be curious for folks here to discuss -- Austin's question about why more cartoonists haven't formed publishing/distro collectives (or the corollary question of how such a collective might be structured, for it to succeed), Tim's point that most of your favorite comics and certainly your favorite self-published work is out of print, etc.

[manoopuesta]

Feb 28, 2023 18:54:47 GMT whitecomics said:

In terms of the "sticker" anecdote specifically, Austin and Tim do a good job of taking a broad view, trying to pull wider lessons from those circumstances, but I have to say I find it pretty depressing that Buenaventura swiped comics intended for other publishers often enough that he had a *reputation* for doing so?? Bleh.

It made me super sad to hear about that when I listened to that talk. I always had Buenaventura for the great guy who was championing great comic works... to then learn that. Oh dear.