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Post by manoopuesta on Jan 27, 2022 15:42:41 GMT
I read The Man Without Talent in my 20s, so could be I am more targeted for this now in my 30s. I should probably get the english edition at some point (I imagine Ryan Holmberg's essay is gold in this, as usual).
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Post by teemcgee on Jan 27, 2022 15:56:03 GMT
Come for the Ryan Holmberg essay, stay for the comic.
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Post by MilleniumDibber on Jan 29, 2022 7:37:08 GMT
In my 40s, had well over a decade wandering aimlessly... I get the book (selling rocks is as pointless and sad as could be, the rock sales event a pinnacle of that), I just don't get the hyperbole for that book specifically. I'm certain I am the target market for it (depressive, uncompetitive, comics reader). I'm not going to sell my copy though, I'm not hostile to it at all. I don't know if this is helpful but I think of the Man Without Talent as a comedy. Bleak but makes me laugh. I mean just look at how he draws his son. Like proto Bobby Hill. Also the inks, pace and poetry are through the roof crazy good... i don't know anything else like it.
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Post by manoopuesta on Jan 30, 2022 17:35:25 GMT
There was a manga on the works (by D&Q) from the wife of Y. Tsuge? Or am I imagining this? I remember a post by Ryan Holmberg about it and liking a lot her art. Also it would be interesting to see the other point of view in 'The man without talent' (I think she did a sort of autobio, or fictionalized bio). Well, everything is fuzzy now, but I hope something of this is true.
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Post by BubblesZine on Feb 1, 2022 13:34:10 GMT
Yeah his wife's comic is in the works, hope it comes out this year. Not 100% on that timeline but it was planned, pretty sure he posted about it.
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Post by manoopuesta on Feb 1, 2022 16:19:52 GMT
Yeah his wife's comic is in the works, hope it comes out this year. Not 100% on that timeline but it was planned, pretty sure he posted about it. great! thanks
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Post by luke on Feb 7, 2023 23:20:32 GMT
I found Man Without Talent moving and melancholy but also frequently hilarious (e.g. the part with the vulva-shaped rock). Maybe because I've read hardly any manga, it felt to me like a gentler version of 80s/90s dirtbag autobio guys like Joe Matt and Dennis Eichorn or whatever. Or maybe it's more in the Pekar vein.
Regarding Johnny Ryan, I loved Angry Youth Comix when it was coming out in my teens and early twenties, but I find the stuff he's been producing post-Prison Pit really cringe now (and Prison Pit was never my thing). Not in an "I'm offended" way, just very corny and Vice Magazine-y. I'm not even convinced it's that I've outgrown it (though probably I have). I haven't reread them in forever, but I feel like in Angry Youth he actually tried to craft humorous situations outside of just being offensive and had strongly defined characters to react to them, kind of like a much broader Hate. Eventually he devolved into churning out the visual equivalent of edgelord word salad. Nick Maandag does "edgy," "inappropriate" humor so much better.
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