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Post by comicshauler on Sept 12, 2021 22:13:08 GMT
I picked up the Neat Stuff boxed set for cheap fairly recently but it didn’t do anything for me. Admittedly I didn’t give it much of a chance but I just don’t connect with his art.
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Post by amirziai1000 on Sept 12, 2021 22:21:42 GMT
I had Hate floating around on my Comixology account for eons before trying it out.
Having a blast with it. Brutal, rapid fire sitcom dialogue. Proper warts and all characters. Buddy feels like every angry "cinema"/"literature"/"music" nerd in their early to mid 20s that I know.
The art is so good as well - phenomenal, expressive cartooning. The slouching postures, the mad expressions. The lettering too is really great - Bagge really makes you hear the screaming with his letters.
I do get the thought that you only read it a couple of issues at a time, it's so intense, so manically high energy that you can only spend so much time with.
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Post by bayls171 on Sept 12, 2021 23:24:59 GMT
I had Hate floating around on my Comixology account for eons before trying it out.
Having a blast with it. Brutal, rapid fire sitcom dialogue. Proper warts and all characters. Buddy feels like every angry "cinema"/"literature"/"music" nerd in their early to mid 20s that I know.
The art is so good as well - phenomenal, expressive cartooning. The slouching postures, the mad expressions. The lettering too is really great - Bagge really makes you hear the screaming with his letters.
I do get the thought that you only read it a couple of issues at a time, it's so intense, so manically high energy that you can only spend so much time with.
Yeah I get the reading it 2 or 3 at a time. Especially the earlier stuff, the later stuff gets easier to read in chunks I feel (although I still prefer the first 15)
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Post by chrxs on Sept 13, 2021 8:57:48 GMT
For the longest time I was put off by Bagge's art because it was a bit too weird and wacky for me. But I recently picked up a cheap copy of the 'Buddy Does Seattle' collection and I've been absolutely loving it.
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Post by MilleniumDibber on Sept 23, 2021 18:25:21 GMT
Was just flicking through Complete Crumb vol 17 and saw this. If anyone knows the Bagge original and wants to post it, would be cool to see side-by-side:
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Post by timbecile on Sept 24, 2021 15:22:52 GMT
Odd to see Peter Bagge as an instructor for "The Great Courses": www.thegreatcourses.com/courses/how-to-create-comicsFor reasons too prosaic to explain, I got a free copy of the $199.95 dvd, but I don't have a dvd player, so I can't tell you what it's like. Thumbs down to the customer who gives it one star due to language. "Ann43" is discouraged from gifting it to her 12-year-old grandson in the Questions section. I disagree. That strikes me as a good gift. All I remember receiving from my grandma was a souvenir vial of ash from the eruption of Mt. St. Helens.
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Post by BubblesZine on Dec 3, 2022 14:03:39 GMT
Okay I just came across this, poster for "Hate Week" from the 1956 movie version of Orwell's 1984. Reminded me of Bagge's classic font!
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Post by GHO on Dec 9, 2022 23:29:19 GMT
I used to really enjoy bagge's work when I first got into comics. But now I rarely [if ever] revisit his work i'm not sure what it is about it, the paragraph sized word balloons, or how the drawing gets more and more paired down with later issues, maybe it happened when I learned of his liberalism. I just don't enjoy the reading experience now like I did then.
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Post by massivesubsidies on Dec 11, 2022 17:15:26 GMT
I return to Neat Stuff more than Hate. Sentiments about The Rise and Fall of Zoove Groover seconded. I'm fine with Buddy being an unsympathetic boor. His story just starts to feel like it doesn't need to be in the comics medium the longer it goes compared to the earlier, more dynamic looking Bradley family stuff.
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Post by thebeautifulpuffin on Dec 11, 2022 20:46:11 GMT
Was just flicking through Complete Crumb vol 17 and saw this. If anyone knows the Bagge original and wants to post it, would be cool to see side-by-side: View Attachment
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Post by pentimento on Jan 24, 2024 0:24:33 GMT
Odd to see Peter Bagge as an instructor for "The Great Courses": www.thegreatcourses.com/courses/how-to-create-comicsFor reasons too prosaic to explain, I got a free copy of the $199.95 dvd, but I don't have a dvd player, so I can't tell you what it's like. Thumbs down to the customer who gives it one star due to language. "Ann43" is discouraged from gifting it to her 12-year-old grandson in the Questions section. I disagree. That strikes me as a good gift. All I remember receiving from my grandma was a souvenir vial of ash from the eruption of Mt. St. Helens. Do the lord's work and upload these discs to archive.org or youtube, or send them to me, please. The digital files are on sale at their site now for 30 bones, but no way am I paying that even that much. www.thegreatcourses.com/courses/how-to-create-comics#reviews
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Post by pentimento on Jan 24, 2024 0:30:42 GMT
I used to really enjoy bagge's work when I first got into comics. But now I rarely [if ever] revisit his work i'm not sure what it is about it, the paragraph sized word balloons, or how the drawing gets more and more paired down with later issues, maybe it happened when I learned of his liberalism. I just don't enjoy the reading experience now like I did then. Ah yes, the scourge of liberalism. Bagge would be the first to correct you, and do so more politely, so I won't bother.
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Post by pentimento on Jan 24, 2024 0:33:13 GMT
The Simpsons was a great show at the time, but it had a room full of writers pitching off of each other. Bagge was writing at at least a comparable level all by himself. Not to mention that his previous series Neat Stuff was OBVIOUSLY a huge inspiration for Groening's show, Bagge should get residuals, then maybe HE'D be the one in Jeffrey Epstein's flight logs instead of Matt, getting his fungus ridden toes sucked by underage teenagers! Bagge missed the boat!
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Post by pentimento on Jan 24, 2024 0:47:35 GMT
Top ten greatest comic book writer of all time, in the company of Stanley, Kurtzman, Crumb, Moore, Kirby, Tezuka. The quality and merit of his work has nothing at all to do with the era or location it records, it's just as timeless as anything by Salinger or Whit Stillman or Chuck Dickens or Chas Schulz. He's better than any television writer who ever lived, better than Woody Allen, better than YOU and better than ME. He should be in line for a Kennedy Center Honor, A Macarthur Genius Grant, a Pulitzer, a Guggenheim, a Nobel Prize, and a blue ribbon at the Puyallup Washington State Fair. Anyone who says his stuff is "dated" or they "can't relate" simply doesn't understand how to make or interpret art of any kind; anyone who dislikes his drawing is what we used to call an art fag - not someone who works for living and really feels the world - go read RAW, you pussies! Bagge's a motherfugging genius. AND the only normal, decent, no-bullshit human I've ever met in this fucked up field.
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Post by owaddled on Jan 24, 2024 1:01:59 GMT
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