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Post by manoopuesta on Jun 24, 2023 23:15:28 GMT
(firstly: sorry cause I think I've talked plenty about Pazienza in the forum, but here we go again).
Maybe this is a bit random, but I was just thinking about the GOAT silly chat we had in the Clowes thread. It was a bit too American-centric (which I understand completely, being the majority of the forum members from there).
Anyway, I was just leafing through my Pazienza comics and thinking that Pazienza would make for a good candidate for the GOAT "award", in terms of (European) cartoonists pushing the medium's limits. Sad that he died so young so there's no telling where he would have gone further down the line with his comics.
Pazienza's comics are, visually, extremely interesting and his stories are great (sometimes controversial, like the Zanardi ones, though maybe not as far as the extreme that is Liberatore's Ranxerox comics). Anyway, I notice that outside of Italy he is very rarely mentioned. I imagine the Fanta volume of Zanardi didn't get much traction, cause I haven't heard many people in the US talking about him.
Some bits of his work:
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Post by robindh on Jun 25, 2023 12:35:57 GMT
Pazienza is probably the best underground cartoonist of all time, at least in terms of sheer drawing ability. Zanardi is a total masterpiece imo. Fantagraphics have the rights to the rest of his work, I'm hoping we'll get Pentothal or Pompeii (which is probably more palatable, being auto-bio) next. He's seriously one of the best to ever do it.
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Post by snailcomic on Jun 26, 2023 10:38:34 GMT
I've had a taste of pazienza's stuff through the fanta zanardi release and loved it. is any of his other stuff readily available? would love to read more. adore his shapeshifting art and the feral-ness of the content.
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Post by manoopuesta on Jun 26, 2023 15:19:59 GMT
Pazienza is probably the best underground cartoonist of all time, at least in terms of sheer drawing ability. Zanardi is a total masterpiece imo. Fantagraphics have the rights to the rest of his work, I'm hoping we'll get Pentothal or Pompeii (which is probably more palatable, being auto-bio) next. He's seriously one of the best to ever do it. I had no clue Fantagraphics have the rights for all of his work. I have both Zanardi and Pompeii (the spanish editions from Fulgencio Pimentel) and while very different they are both masterpieces. I don't know if Pompeii is more palatable actually, since it is extremely depressing: it deals with his heroine addiction at his lowest hours (and he actually died of an overdose a bit after finishing it). In Spain, I feel that Zanardi did better than Pompeii. I hope Pentothal gets translated some day. I really want to read that book. (and Pompeii for English readers, but I already hoped for that in the "Translate this book" thread and so far nothing. I guess Zanardi did badly, cause I always thought Fantagraphics would follow suit after the Spanish edition like they seemed to do with Zanardi).
I've had a taste of pazienza's stuff through the fanta zanardi release and loved it. is any of his other stuff readily available? would love to read more. adore his shapeshifting art and the feral-ness of the content. Unfortunately, I believe that Zanardi is the only release in English so far.
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Post by robindh on Jun 26, 2023 16:10:26 GMT
Since Fanta have the rights I'm sure they'll follow it up someday, just probably not a priority since it probably wasn't super successful and it's (stupidly) lukewarm critical reception. There's one particularly bad review I won't name
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