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Post by GHO on Jan 15, 2024 14:15:08 GMT
to pick up on anti-stylers. I sort of hate this term I think it's a plot by old heads to ghettoize newer graffiti styles as "young people shit" but a few people I can think of who do this are aneko, sluto, and our own resident comic wonder-kin Mr.Tangemanga himself. although I don't think any of them would like that label being put on them either. there's a great instagram that catalogs a lot of the eastern euro stuff, pretty sure it's just called antistyle or something like that.
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Post by JerrryJames on Jan 15, 2024 14:37:14 GMT
to pick up on anti-stylers. I sort of hate this term I think it's a plot by old heads to ghettoize newer graffiti styles as "young people shit" but a few people I can think of who do this are aneko, sluto, and our own resident comic wonder-kin floyd p tangeman. although I don't think any of them would like that label being put on them. there's a great instagram that catalogs a lot of the eastern euro stuff, pretty sure it's just called antistyle or something like that. Definitely gotta agree with you there, both Aneko & Sluto are sort of in their own category away from what most people consider as 'Antistyle'. & Damn! Rad, didn't know homie got down like that! Right up my alley art-wise. I'm kind of with you in a way, except that just goes for most new things in graffiti in general that look anything outside of the traditional old school look. Philly in general has it's own style that's kind of transcended another version of the look (i've never even been to philly, only speaking on what I see online there like a nerd), getting even more flowy than ever. I'm glad you mentioned Margaret Kilgallen & Barry Mcgee though because that opens up the conversation for monikers & freight graffiti, which is kind of the only shit I spend my time seeking out anymore; I got real into sneaking around freight yards a couple years back & have hundreds on hundreds of different photos of different people from around the country. I used to be way more into that world of art than comix, but after meeting some of my favorite writers & some of my favorite comic artists.... I think I'd rather be associated with the comics guys haha it's just so full of toxicity, I've learned that I'm way more into the art than the inner workings.
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Post by GHO on Jan 15, 2024 14:45:50 GMT
to pick up on anti-stylers. I sort of hate this term I think it's a plot by old heads to ghettoize newer graffiti styles as "young people shit" but a few people I can think of who do this are aneko, sluto, and our own resident comic wonder-kin floyd p tangeman. although I don't think any of them would like that label being put on them. there's a great instagram that catalogs a lot of the eastern euro stuff, pretty sure it's just called antistyle or something like that. Definitely gotta agree with you there, both Aneko & Sluto are sort of in their own category away from what most people consider as 'Antistyle'. I'm kind of with you in a way, except that just goes for most new things in graffiti in general that look anything outside of the traditional old school look. Philly in general has it's own style that's kind of transcended another version of the look, getting even more flowy than ever. I'm glad you mentioned Margaret Kilgallen & Barry Mcgee though because that opens up the conversation for monikers & freight graffiti, which is kind of the only shit I spend my time seeking out anymore; I got real into sneaking around freight yards a couple years back & have hundreds on hundreds of different marks from different people from around the country, don't want to incriminate myself further, but I never went without a marker haha I used to be way more into that world of art than comix, but after meeting some of my favorite writers & some of my favorite comic artists.... I think I'd rather be associated with the comics guys haha it's just so full of toxicity, I've learned that I'm way more into the art than the inner workings. yes, completely agree i think graff is an experience that is best if your sort of a lurker. it's fun to have your crew and everything but keeping your circle small is best. the amount of grafitti writers i've met who are just egotistical assholes is too large to count lol. did you ever take any pictures of the monikers you saw. did you ever see any Matokie S, META or B Vernon ones. always on the lookout for photos of those!
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Post by JerrryJames on Jan 15, 2024 15:46:40 GMT
Definitely gotta agree with you there, both Aneko & Sluto are sort of in their own category away from what most people consider as 'Antistyle'. I'm kind of with you in a way, except that just goes for most new things in graffiti in general that look anything outside of the traditional old school look. Philly in general has it's own style that's kind of transcended another version of the look, getting even more flowy than ever. I'm glad you mentioned Margaret Kilgallen & Barry Mcgee though because that opens up the conversation for monikers & freight graffiti, which is kind of the only shit I spend my time seeking out anymore; I got real into sneaking around freight yards a couple years back & have hundreds on hundreds of different marks from different people from around the country, don't want to incriminate myself further, but I never went without a marker haha I used to be way more into that world of art than comix, but after meeting some of my favorite writers & some of my favorite comic artists.... I think I'd rather be associated with the comics guys haha it's just so full of toxicity, I've learned that I'm way more into the art than the inner workings. yes, completely agree i think graff is an experience that is best if your sort of a lurker. it's fun to have your crew and everything but keeping your circle small is best. the amount of grafitti writers i've met who are just egotistical assholes is too large to count lol. did you ever take any pictures of the monikers you saw. did you ever see any Matokie S, META or B Vernon ones. always on the lookout for photos of those! Unfortunately in all of my hours lurking trains, I've never come across that many of the BIG legends in the world, & certainly haven't seen any of theirs :/ They're very far & few in between these days, I've only seen one Kodak Kid before & I didn't even get a picture of it for some reason lol however I have easily over 700 photos of different ones I've gathered, probably at least 300 different people, not even counting the burners & paint. I started making several zines back several years ago on them but got sidetracked each time after like 20 pages, however I do still intend on putting them all together into Something at some point in time, especially since tons of the people that drew them have since passed on. & hey, I'm still in my 20's & not an old head haha. I've been out searching abandoned railroads & have come across old hobo monikers from the 40's & 50's before underneath old wooden walkways in the middle of the woods of Oregon haha it's like hunting for treasure that you get to photograph. For anybody remotely interested, the best starting point is watching the film 'Who is Bozo Texino' by Bill Daniels, the real moniker talk starts around 18:00 after a lot of old hobo talk. (very sidetracked from the topic of Contemporary Art, but it's an interesting rabbit hole to fall down)
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Post by GHO on Jan 15, 2024 18:16:04 GMT
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Post by pietrykowski on Jan 15, 2024 18:38:45 GMT
First time I saw Marisol's work was several years ago and it leveled me. I had no idea who she was. It was this piece in the basement of the Brooks. I feel like only recently has there been much info/attention about her. But you can clearly see her influence in illustration and 3d that came after. Here is Kathryn Polk's work which I feel is influenced by Marisol's figuration, line and use of pattern. Also Klee rules. I'm always thinking about that angel monoprint that he made and Walter Benjamin wrote about. His range over the years is so impressive.
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Post by GHO on Jan 15, 2024 19:09:38 GMT
Unrelated picture of Lyonel Feininger looking very cool on a fixed gear bike.
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Post by pentimento on Jan 15, 2024 23:20:07 GMT
Unrelated picture of Lyonel Feininger looking very cool on a fixed gear bike. And here's Chris Ware looking like a poncy ass on a tandem bike with his daughter, riding around his million dollar neighborhood. No wonder he had to move, I bet it was all the normal people on his street could do to not run him over with their cars. And here's Ed Pi$kor looking stupider than ever on his co-splay funnybike from before he was born. Everything this guy does makes him more and more of a buffoon, Jesus.
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Post by bluebed on Jan 16, 2024 3:39:32 GMT
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Post by pietrykowski on Jan 16, 2024 7:08:17 GMT
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Post by manoopuesta on Jan 16, 2024 11:47:09 GMT
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Post by eheitner on Jan 16, 2024 13:46:21 GMT
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Post by GHO on Jan 17, 2024 2:53:27 GMT
My favorite comic about biking my favorite bike painting (Paul Cadmus) so many dick references!!!!! (p.s., would love to know who these people are on the bikes)
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Post by wigshop on Jan 17, 2024 16:20:52 GMT
my favorite bike painting (Paul Cadmus) so many dick references!!!!! (p.s., would love to know who these people are on the bikes) Wouldja believe that good old Ernie Bushmiller took figure drawing classes alongside Cadmus? (Learned that from the Griffith last year.)
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Post by eheitner on Jan 17, 2024 16:31:31 GMT
my favorite bike painting (Paul Cadmus) so many dick references!!!!! (p.s., would love to know who these people are on the bikes) Wouldja believe that good old Ernie Bushmiller took figure drawing classes alongside Cadmus? (Learned that from the Griffith last year.) Damn thats awesome. Was that at the Art Students League?
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