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Post by pentimento on Feb 13, 2024 2:52:40 GMT
The man most responsible for ruining the reputation of The New Yorker as a vehicle for quality gag cartooning. He possesses a completely worthless understanding of the humor - and especially the craft, now dead beyond repair thanks to him - of the form. The comic strip? Dead. The gag cartoon? Dead. Only comic books remain, and even those are 99% felch. Fuck this guy.
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Post by pentimento on Feb 16, 2024 2:01:27 GMT
Whoa, never thought I'd see these two artists commingled like this. Salle is one of those late 70s early 80s guys (Eric Fischl, etc.) that were foisted on the public as "new" figurative artists, which never fooled me for a second. They weren't none of them doing anything that already hadn't been done by Robert Williams, or George Tooker or whoever. I like their stuff - Salle and Fischl's work is admittedly impressive in person - but I think they're aesthetically and intellectually kaput.
Anyhow, Fuck David Salle. Peter Arno, however, despite being a rarefied dandy rich shit, was fucking awesome.
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Post by pentimento on Feb 16, 2024 18:27:32 GMT
Always thought Trudeau was simply a bad cartoonist with a fucked-out Boomer POV and sensibility. Here he's interviewed by his foxy wife Jane Pauley, now that's something I could get behind, always had a crush on her, wow. I'd draw this dumb strip every fucking day for fifty years, too, if I could wake up next to that! Anyway, shitty cartoonist, spoiled Yale fuckface, millionaire, fuck this guy. Peter Bagge agrees with me, so if you got a problem with hating on Trudeau, take it up with him, a genuinely great cartooner, unlike this clown.
(I will admit, I've read a few more in depth interviews with Trudeau, and he does seem to know his comic strip history, unlike the majority of working strip artists who seem to think Bill Watterson is the ne plus ultra of the form, hahaha, so good on him.)
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Post by dominocorp on Feb 16, 2024 21:42:21 GMT
Trudeau did an interview on Democracy Now when Trump took office, to talk about a collection of his Trump strips. You almost couldn't write it, every cliche about a smug hippie generation turned overly comfortable type guy was on display. Doonesbury was the only comic my dad genuinely loves so I probably have crazy feelings about it in regards to that...there's stuff about it I admire, but it also drives me up the wall. Specifically, Berke Breathed getting talked about as sup-Doonesbury always baffled me. Breathed can draw AND can be funny (in a corny way, but whatever)!!! People think GW Bush being portrayed as invisible is funnier than Bill The Cat??
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Post by pentimento on Feb 17, 2024 18:23:35 GMT
I was well past the target age for this guy when he debuted, but still watched him whenever I had the chance. His "up" demeanor was so at odds with my own fatalism I couldn't help but be fascinated. His drawing lessons are entirely rudimentary, but I always like watching people draw, good, bad whatever, www.youtube.com/@secretcity826/videos
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Post by pentimento on Feb 18, 2024 21:18:47 GMT
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Post by JerrryJames on Feb 19, 2024 2:06:10 GMT
Hell yeah, got some stuff to watch at work tonight! Appreciate that
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Post by Ian M on Feb 20, 2024 2:28:33 GMT
I posted a version of this on Sunday, but I was really unhappy with it. The content was fine, but watching too many YouTube videos of people just opening comics and talking about them was a poor inspiration.
I decided that if it was worth me saying, and I thought it was worth you listening to, that I should do it much better. This topic works better when mainly scripted, and you don't have to sort through me saying, you know, like, and, and rephrasing my words a lot.
I was able to take ten minutes off of the running time too, which means I'm not wasting viewers' time.
Please give it a chance if you like comics and have an interest in comics as more than as products.
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Post by BubblesZine on Feb 20, 2024 14:38:17 GMT
revisiting Lumpy and the Dumpers dressed as The Blobby Boys because I just got those new Alex Schubert zines in the mail.
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Post by GHO on Feb 20, 2024 16:01:35 GMT
I'm sure everyone on here is very aware of what the new york comic / picture story symposium is posting but I just wanted to recommend that everyone watch the kevin huizenga one if they haven't. I think it's really great how kevin is showing how a cartoonist can function autonomously from a day job in this internet landscape that we are in. The part when he shows all the books he's sending to his patreon subscribers was such an ah-ha moment when it comes to distribution and creating your own community post something like fact sheet five or previous modes of distro. also I think kevin has some great thoughts about book design / object making in general so it's cool to see how he collects his thoughts.
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Post by mikesheawright on Feb 21, 2024 21:19:28 GMT
third episode of Comics People is up, this one is about autobio comics. let me know if it's annoying that i'm posting every episode haha
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Post by Ian M on Feb 22, 2024 7:58:14 GMT
third episode of Comics People is up, this one is about autobio comics. let me know if it's annoying that i'm posting every episode haha
I watched, there was some good stuff. I'm a big fan of those Ken Dahl/Gabby Schultz books, and the Eleanor Davis one. I've done a bunch of autobio in my life, and I always stuck to the one thing that Seth told me, I think just in passing, but it stuck with me: don't tell anecdotes. He felt there had to be something more there, and it's why he didn't want to reprint Palookaville 1. He may have changed his mind since he said it decades ago, or he may never have meant it so seriously in the first place, but I took it to heart. Cool stories alone aren't enough, there needs to be something tying it together to make it worth sharing as a comic, and not just a story you tell people because it's neat. Anyway, I took that to heart, and it paralyzed me from doing autobio for a decade until I had something to say. I did a bunch of autiobio comics with that in mind, and have since moved beyond
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Post by mikesheawright on Feb 22, 2024 15:00:55 GMT
thanks for watching! yeah i agree, i need some extra meat, the processing part of the experience, more than just documenting it. but i do see the appeal of reading something day to day where you're kind of experiencing life alongside someone else, especially if the artist works in this way for a long time you get to see development and change in their life. i don't get into those comics much myself but i get why they might be interesting to some. i personally don't have any interest in doing autobio in general, although i did do a short one for TCJ about teaching online during covid. that was fun but it felt like a single slice of time that might be interesting, i don't feel like my life experiences in general are that interesting and i'd rather share my thoughts and ideas through fiction. no shade towards anyone who makes autobio for their own reasons though. unless it's just complaining, fuck that.
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Post by pentimento on Feb 27, 2024 4:51:15 GMT
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Post by Hagbard on Feb 27, 2024 18:48:33 GMT
I’ve been wanting to check out Saga de Xam for sometime. I wish it would get a wider reprint and translation sometime soon.
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