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Post by mamalips on Oct 24, 2023 22:02:29 GMT
Somewhere to post about potential books you are in two minds about. Hopefully others who own the book you are unsure about can provide feedback to help you make the decision.
I'll start:
We Told You So (Fantagraphics). How much of this is comics vs. history? I've heard at times, it goes into more info than needed. Do you pick it up often?
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Post by arecomicsevengood on Oct 24, 2023 22:36:04 GMT
Somewhere to post about potential books you are in two minds about. Hopefully others who own the book you are unsure about can provide feedback to help you make the decision. I'll start: We Told You So (Fantagraphics). How much of this is comics vs. history? I've heard at times, it goes into more info than needed. Do you pick it up often? I read it from the library, very few comics, pretty quick read, not necessarily that interesting. Would definitely not recommend buying a copy. |
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Post by arecomicsevengood on Oct 25, 2023 0:09:28 GMT
Also this is a great thread idea.
Things I think about buying but am on the fence about: The Boody Rogers collection from Craig Yoe/Fantagraphics, the Newave collection of eighties minicomics from Fantagraphics, and, not a book, but trying to track down issues of the Sergio Aragones Funnies series from Bongo.
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Post by bayls171 on Oct 27, 2023 20:40:35 GMT
The new John Severin book that Fanta just put out - the Westerns one - is that worth getting? I read one of the EC collections and that fucking ruled but idk if this will be similar
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Post by arecomicsevengood on Oct 27, 2023 21:39:58 GMT
Also has anyone read this book Loiterers that Conundrum put out years ago?
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Post by dominocorp on Oct 28, 2023 5:43:46 GMT
The new John Severin book that Fanta just put out - the Westerns one - is that worth getting? I read one of the EC collections and that fucking ruled but idk if this will be similar severin without elder isn't as good, imo. |
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Post by GHO on Oct 30, 2023 3:05:51 GMT
Somewhere to post about potential books you are in two minds about. Hopefully others who own the book you are unsure about can provide feedback to help you make the decision. I'll start: We Told You So (Fantagraphics). How much of this is comics vs. history? I've heard at times, it goes into more info than needed. Do you pick it up often? I would recommend buying the drawn and quarterly equivalent of this book. It is not very expensive in certain places lots of comics and interesting writing. i've been picking it up and having long periods of reading monthly since I got it six months ago. |
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Post by pentimento on Oct 30, 2023 16:49:01 GMT
The DQ equivalent is an embarrassment, and epitomizes what that once interesting company has become as it slides into bland, self-regarding, non-relevance. It's a bunch of spoiled, privileged illustration majors, with their pinkie toe in comics, waxing sycophantically about the genius of this government-funded, agenda-driven, largely PC publishing house. There's no chance-taking, no intuition, no tumultuous ups or downs (artistically or financially)... even Dave Sim (a middling cartoonist who based his entire career on a dumb adolescent aesthetic premise) has a more interesting personal and career history than DQ. Other than their "original" group - Doucet, Matt, Brown, Seth (the last of whom I now despise) - and their licensed Japanese reprints and Gasoline Alley project - they're a calcified concern for NPR moms, churning out "comix" with all the verve and invention of greeting cards or airport novels. All you need to know about DQ is that they kowtowed to absolute nobody "Sarah Horrocks" (and her ten friends on Twitter) when she (?) got into a public row (something something about transphobia, etc.) with cartoonist Berliac, causing DQ to cancel his book. Anyone who is opposed to and threatened by freedom of the press is a weak-kneed enemy of art, and anyone who would ever put me in that situation, would find me at their door with a baseball bat. DQ caved like the swine they are. Chris and Peggy and Tom would probably gladly line up to lick Justin Trudeau's boots, despite his personal history of blackface and other delights.
The Fanta book is, on the other hand, appropriately and accurately wild, contradictory, multi-faceted, never resolving, laugh out loud funny, occasionally terrifying. It certainly has the advantage of recording a more interesting time - the confluence of post-underground/dying mainstream/emerging alt comics/ - and of course the specific personalities involved are in every case more colorful than their tepid equivalents at DQ. Can you imaging Oliveros taking his staff out shooting in the woods? Can you imagine him sleeping with Doucet, as lucky bastard and notorious pussyhound Groth did (clearly stated as such in the Fanta book)? Can you even imagine Oliveros or Burns or Devlin doing something as mild as flipping the bird in a snapshot, like the famous photo of Kim Thompson? Why no, that would be... impolite, god forbid.
I have issues with a lot of Fanta's editorial decisions of late, and have had some good and some bad personal interaction with their staff, but Fanta did it first, continues to publish more challenging work (despite their non-admission of Disney supplying them with increasingly censored Barks work, etc.) and these historical volumes only emphasize the differences. I can only suppose anyone who prefers DQ to Fanta, or prefers DQ:25 over We Told You So, is either a complete boor, or afraid of life, and needs to surround themselves with milquetoast affirmations that mommy and daddy never gave them.
Sad!
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Post by dominocorp on Oct 30, 2023 19:04:16 GMT
Are the Gasoline Alley books still coming out?
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Post by pentimento on Oct 30, 2023 19:51:03 GMT
The last one was 2018. Obviously the The Pandemic (TM) threw a monkey wrench into things, but it sure does seem that DQ is more concerned with better selling titles. I'm guessing it's among their worst performing series, even among reprints (I bet even their art manga sells more) and I have to wonder if the blackface/minstrel style rendering of Walt's maid has finally become too much for the company. Then of course Joe Matt died, and I believe he was supplying them with the printed strips as source material, so who knows what the situation is there. It's one of the best strips ever, I hope it continues.
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Post by jporcellino on Oct 30, 2023 20:24:53 GMT
Are the Gasoline Alley books still coming out? The Gasoline Alley books are indeed "on hold." |
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Post by dominocorp on Oct 31, 2023 0:08:18 GMT
I imagine they made zero money, but those Gasoline Alley books would have been an incredible project to see through for a bit longer to see the characters age.
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Post by pentimento on Oct 31, 2023 1:35:48 GMT
C'mon, man, we all know nepo-baby hacks like Barbara Brandon-Croft are more important than 125-year old white dudes like Frank King. Not really, she makes Hilary Price look like George Herriman.
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Post by skoden on Nov 7, 2023 18:24:42 GMT
Has anyone read the new Atlas Comics Library Vol 01: Adventures Into Terror? At 180 pages I'm curious what was chosen to be reprinted.
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Post by owaddled on Nov 8, 2023 4:06:54 GMT
Also this is a great thread idea. Things I think about buying but am on the fence about: The Boody Rogers collection from Craig Yoe/Fantagraphics, the Newave collection of eighties minicomics from Fantagraphics, and, not a book, but trying to track down issues of the Sergio Aragones Funnies series from Bongo. I wish I had seen this post 2 years ago when I had every issue of the Sergio Funnies then I could give them to you. I didn't end up reading them all but I enjoyed it more than his stuff with Evanier. I've wanted to buy the Newave! book, but used copies seem like they're going for $50. |
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