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Post by guidovision on Dec 16, 2023 22:24:14 GMT
After a couple of weeks lurking around, this thread finally pushed me to register here. I was really into CF back in the POWR MASTRS days, and had the faint hope of finding some info on the fabled fourth volume here, but it only confirmed what I pretty much knew (which is, almost certainly not going to happen). Have you seen the 4th volume mini-comic teaser? That does exist. Yeah, I have that one! That came out around the point of my peak interest in the series, and was super excited when I got it. The fact that it existed kept my hopes fof the book's eventual release alive, perhaps a tad longer than it should.
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Post by addley on Jan 10, 2024 23:30:29 GMT
I find it's often fun to read CF's comics as Freud reads dreams, which is to say super literally. When a character says something, it is a sort of like a "metaphysical" statement about an attitude towards existence. This is not always something that's appropriate, but I will switch into this perspective often. I think Liquid On Neutral is a great example. The character initially says, "I'm on my way to rewrite the script now". What he means is just some movie or TV script, but what he accidentally begins is the process of learning to "rewrite the script" of reality. I like this because as someone who lives in LA, I feel like I live in a place of great ambition and of great non-ambition, and feel this tension often. The entertainment industry is about creating realities. This is ambitious if the reality in question is able to reflect or embellish our reality in a compelling way, pushing it in various directions. But as a story, it's never directly. In the comic, a fantastical short circuit happens where the character's ambition catches up with them, overwhelming and overtaking their motivation, changing them. This puts them more in touch with their modern desire for... change. I think with any tough work, one has to first find a way in. And manytimes the way in isn't on teh first page, or even the plot itself. Plot is used by most of us as a way to dissect and enter work and worlds. But Plot can also just be a thread to hang ideas on, where plot might not be of a lot of meaning.
Frankly I have only read one comic by CF, and It might be one of the more straightforward ones. But Here, there are a few things to see. The text sewer written on the manhole cover and the trail of by-passers infront. Why would a sewer be written like that unless to point to the metatextual nature of the following pages, like how one would write sewer on a script/roughs, and it's stuck somewhere midway between a script and a final work. The same with trail of bypassers, it's not a mark of registration issue, or maybe it is, but the figures are also filled with different colors and can be seen as two iterations of a background element, like a leftover artifact etc. Later on in the comic there are parts where color fills have aliasing/feathering problems. So one could kind of say, that here the draft and the work are link to the nature of artifact of the artwork, the leftovers from one stage to another, and how the final work is a matter of luck and can perhaps be considered a chimera of many things, a modern(post-structural?) post industrial miracle. I mean, that's one way to read it (however badly stitched together). Someone who perhaps has a hang of CF's own influences will read it in other ways, someone who knows comic history thoroughly will come at it differently. Plus, I like it because it looks cool and great is as valid a criteria as any. View AttachmentMany sewer lids actually do just say " sewer" on them haha
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Post by addley on Jan 10, 2024 23:51:55 GMT
Not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but this is the most in depth ive ever heard from CF, and it really gave me some insight to their process. I revisit this talk often! It is tied for my favorite along with this interview with Matt Seneca: www.hoodedutilitarian.com/2011/02/you-have-to-make-a-space/Which I like so much I made a google docs version of because (on my computer at least) the website hosting this interview is degrading and becoming unreadable. I just got the recent issue of a magazine called Baited Area that seems to have an interesting and very long interview, but haven't tucked in yet.
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Post by daisyjaberi on Jan 22, 2024 4:24:50 GMT
Not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but this is the most in depth ive ever heard from CF, and it really gave me some insight to their process. I revisit this talk often! It is tied for my favorite along with this interview with Matt Seneca: www.hoodedutilitarian.com/2011/02/you-have-to-make-a-space/Which I like so much I made a google docs version of because (on my computer at least) the website hosting this interview is degrading and becoming unreadable. I just got the recent issue of a magazine called Baited Area that seems to have an interesting and very long interview, but haven't tucked in yet. ty for the info! unrelated, but Lately I've been listening to caveh zahedi's podcast "conversations i want to have before i die" and it's been keeping me company
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Post by daisyjaberi on Jan 26, 2024 13:11:33 GMT
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Post by daisyjaberi on Jan 26, 2024 13:12:25 GMT
the low tide reissue looked good too would have been nice to see in person-
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Post by chocolatemoloko on Feb 6, 2024 18:11:37 GMT
The Lowtide reissue is really nice. I can't wait for the reissue of Lowtide 5 to come out.
The zines he released last year were also really good. I hope we get a continuation of Blue Swimmer though.
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Post by argethebarge on Feb 6, 2024 19:52:31 GMT
Yea the lowtide reissue is lovely. I think Noel mentioned he gives 50% of the cost to CF which is why the price is so high, but its also a really nicely made object
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Post by pentimento on Feb 6, 2024 22:23:41 GMT
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Post by addley on Feb 6, 2024 23:04:35 GMT
Woah!!
What's in it tho? I can't find the deets
I also can only afford so much but I def have been waiting for this type of collection, as long as it doesn't overlap my stuff too much
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Post by arecomicsevengood on Feb 6, 2024 23:27:01 GMT
Woah!! What's in it tho? I can't find the deets I also can only afford so much but I def have been waiting for this type of collection, as long as it doesn't overlap my stuff too much Pretty sure "talking owls" means his Kramers Ergot 5 story is in here
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Post by addley on Feb 7, 2024 0:10:07 GMT
Woah!! What's in it tho? I can't find the deets I also can only afford so much but I def have been waiting for this type of collection, as long as it doesn't overlap my stuff too much Pretty sure "talking owls" means his Kramers Ergot 5 story is in here Oh! I don't think I've even ever had the chance to read it!
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Post by robindh on Feb 7, 2024 1:13:03 GMT
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Post by BubblesZine on Feb 7, 2024 13:03:59 GMT
I think it's all earlier work from before like 2010. Stoked this is coming to be!
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Post by chocolatemoloko on Feb 8, 2024 18:40:48 GMT
Alot of that stuff is so hard to find now. It's gonna be nice to finally read it.
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