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Post by junkflower on Nov 28, 2023 13:58:59 GMT
Yeah I've always found Copacetic to be excellent... once I did order something from them that turned out to be out of stock, but they sent me a very polite email about it pretty much immediately. I hope to make it out to the physical location someday.
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Post by eheitner on Nov 28, 2023 14:11:16 GMT
Just chiming in to say I love Copacetic and make an effort to do my ordering through them, they are always fast and professional and communicative but also just great.
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Post by awfulquiet on Nov 28, 2023 14:22:24 GMT
i've never had any problem with ordering from Copacetic.
I've experienced one time where they ended up not having something in stock despite it being on their website. But it wasn't a problem. Quick refund and the rest of my order was on it's way.
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Post by awfulquiet on Nov 28, 2023 14:24:00 GMT
Yeah I've always found Copacetic to be excellent... once I did order something from them that turned out to be out of stock, but they sent me a very polite email about it pretty much immediately. I hope to make it out to the physical location someday. Technically, Copacetic no longer exists as a physical location.
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Post by grubcubman on Nov 28, 2023 16:04:48 GMT
Yeah I've always found Copacetic to be excellent... once I did order something from them that turned out to be out of stock, but they sent me a very polite email about it pretty much immediately. I hope to make it out to the physical location someday. Technically, Copacetic no longer exists as a physical location.
I went to the "new" shop this weekend, and it seemed like Copacetic after a strong once-over with a broom. It seems like Bill B. took some stock with him, but I recognized it as the same shop, the selection is still great (maybe not as dense for now), and I think it's still a great place for this kind of stuff. |
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Post by BubblesZine on Nov 28, 2023 18:11:16 GMT
Spoilers: in the new Bubbles (out soon...) I talk to both Bill of Copacetic and Bill of Doomed Planet, you'll get the story of what's up inside.
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Post by GHO on Nov 28, 2023 18:56:31 GMT
Yeah I've always found Copacetic to be excellent... once I did order something from them that turned out to be out of stock, but they sent me a very polite email about it pretty much immediately. I hope to make it out to the physical location someday. Well, just the fact that they didn't have the book is cause enough to trash them online apparently. Polite emails are just another way of placating passive comics consumers. |
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Post by pentimento on Nov 28, 2023 22:50:29 GMT
Yeah I've always found Copacetic to be excellent... once I did order something from them that turned out to be out of stock, but they sent me a very polite email about it pretty much immediately. I hope to make it out to the physical location someday. Well, just the fact that they didn't have the book is cause enough to trash them online apparently. Polite emails are just another way of placating passive comics consumers. If it happens once, no problem. Half a dozen times over a couple years? Fuck them. People like Porccellino can run a shop site with accurate stock, why cant Copacetic? Also, frankly, the whole Pittsturd comics mafia can blow themselves: Frank Santoro, Ed "Wheelie" Piskor, Jimmy Ruggles, et al. |
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Post by dominocorp on Nov 29, 2023 1:28:11 GMT
I do think Amazon has caused problems with how people think of this stuff. A long time ago, if I sent someone $5 cash for a zine and they never ever sent it, after 5 years? Ok, bad. But...once I got sent a zine two years after ordering, and that seemed to be part of the culture. An online shop run by one person is so hard to keep stable, even if you're setting inventory quantities and being really careful. You table at a show, you sell some stuff, you update the quantities but...uh oh, you made one mistake and now here you are writing an email to a customer about a refund. Or, jeez, you're trying to keep the margins right and running the inventory out of a place that can no longer handle the amount of items you have, you know there's a copy of Bubbles #5 around somewhere, but now you've spent an hour looking for it and there are dozens of other orders to pack. Might need to refund that one as well! And, oddly, sometimes it's the same customer who that happens to a few times. Copacetic ran a brick and mortar store as well, it's impossible to keep that stuff straight all the time unless you have a staff, which...I don't think they did in any real sense.
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Post by grubcubman on Nov 29, 2023 1:48:33 GMT
I do think Amazon has caused problems with how people think of this stuff. A long time ago, if I sent someone $5 cash for a zine and they never ever sent it, after 5 years? Ok, bad. But...once I got sent a zine two years after ordering, and that seemed to be part of the culture. An online shop run by one person is so hard to keep stable, even if you're setting inventory quantities and being really careful. You table at a show, you sell some stuff, you update the quantities but...uh oh, you made one mistake and now here you are writing an email to a customer about a refund. Or, jeez, you're trying to keep the margins right and running the inventory out of a place that can no longer handle the amount of items you have, you know there's a copy of Bubbles #5 around somewhere, but now you've spent an hour looking for it and there are dozens of other orders to pack. Might need to refund that one as well! And, oddly, sometimes it's the same customer who that happens to a few times. Copacetic ran a brick and mortar store as well, it's impossible to keep that stuff straight all the time unless you have a staff, which...I don't think they did in any real sense. The times I've come closest to filing papers to close my store have been when I've sold an issue and then had to look for it for an hour on my shelves. |
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Post by pentimento on Nov 29, 2023 2:39:09 GMT
I do think Amazon has caused problems with how people think of this stuff. A long time ago, if I sent someone $5 cash for a zine and they never ever sent it, after 5 years? Ok, bad. But...once I got sent a zine two years after ordering, and that seemed to be part of the culture. An online shop run by one person is so hard to keep stable, even if you're setting inventory quantities and being really careful. You table at a show, you sell some stuff, you update the quantities but...uh oh, you made one mistake and now here you are writing an email to a customer about a refund. Or, jeez, you're trying to keep the margins right and running the inventory out of a place that can no longer handle the amount of items you have, you know there's a copy of Bubbles #5 around somewhere, but now you've spent an hour looking for it and there are dozens of other orders to pack. Might need to refund that one as well! And, oddly, sometimes it's the same customer who that happens to a few times. Copacetic ran a brick and mortar store as well, it's impossible to keep that stuff straight all the time unless you have a staff, which...I don't think they did in any real sense. Well, that doesn't answer how one guy - Porccellino, who also presumably has (or had) a day job - did a better job than Copacetic, who presumably did nothing but run their store, or an entire warehouse of hippies at Last Gasp. It can be done. Kudos to those like John P who manage it. As for zine culture... to quote Jeffrey Wells, "Don't tell me!" I know I'm about 15-20 years older than you, so I experienced the zine boom of 85-95 first hand, as a seller of my own, via mail, a consumer of others, via mail, and as a reviewer for several of the biggest review rags. I'm used to waiting. Why someone like Copacetic cant, two decades into the new century, do as well as all the hundreds of zinesters did 30 years earlier from their bedrooms, I don't know. Whatever, though, I'm not gonna harp on the guy any more, I've made my point. I'm sure he and Eddy and Jimbo and Frankolini have a strip poker game to conduct. |
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Post by GHO on Nov 29, 2023 4:20:56 GMT
this is so on topic for the "Comic Sale/Deal Thread" |
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Post by BubblesZine on Nov 29, 2023 4:26:57 GMT
Bill Boichel is amazing and a saint. Dude has done so much for pushing comics to the front for 40 years. Copacetic comics was easy the greatest shop I've ever been to. Bill's recommendations were always so insightful and full of enthusiasm. A guy who actually read nearly all the stuff in his shop.
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Post by dominocorp on Nov 29, 2023 4:46:47 GMT
I do think Amazon has caused problems with how people think of this stuff. A long time ago, if I sent someone $5 cash for a zine and they never ever sent it, after 5 years? Ok, bad. But...once I got sent a zine two years after ordering, and that seemed to be part of the culture. An online shop run by one person is so hard to keep stable, even if you're setting inventory quantities and being really careful. You table at a show, you sell some stuff, you update the quantities but...uh oh, you made one mistake and now here you are writing an email to a customer about a refund. Or, jeez, you're trying to keep the margins right and running the inventory out of a place that can no longer handle the amount of items you have, you know there's a copy of Bubbles #5 around somewhere, but now you've spent an hour looking for it and there are dozens of other orders to pack. Might need to refund that one as well! And, oddly, sometimes it's the same customer who that happens to a few times. Copacetic ran a brick and mortar store as well, it's impossible to keep that stuff straight all the time unless you have a staff, which...I don't think they did in any real sense. Why someone like Copacetic cant, two decades into the new century, do as well as all the hundreds of zinesters did 30 years earlier from their bedrooms, I don't know. Because they have way more inventory to sort through and organize. I should say though, I totally get critiquing a store everyone else loves. I'm just responding with my perspective because I do something similar to them and can imagine the problems they have. I've had mycomicshop mess up an order here and there. It happens to everyone. |
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Post by junkflower on Nov 29, 2023 11:54:33 GMT
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